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Johnny Depp took a significant win in his defamation trial against Amber Heard. And her attorney went on the record to say the evidence does prove Depp is an abuser, whether the jury and public believe it or not.

Elaine Bredehoft gave a few interviews and suggested Heard never had a chance at a fair trial in the U.S. Read on to discover why a body language expert was on the “borderline” of describing some of Heard’s attorney’s remarks as gaslighting.

A body language expert analyzed interviews with Amber Heard's attorney Elaine Bredehoft
(l-r) Elaine Bredehoft and Amber Heard | Kevin Lamarque/POOL/AFP/Getty Images

Amber Heard’s attorney went public in the wake of the verdict

While Heard and Depp shared messages with fans on social media, Bredehoft was seemingly the first key courtroom player to start making interview rounds. On CBS Mornings, she said the judge didn’t allow crucial evidence which would have changed the outcome of the trial.

Bredehoft also said it was improbable all the jurors followed instructions when they went home. This led to discussions online about why the jury wasn’t sequestered.

According to Bredehoft, a “tale of two trials” is at play. She pointed to a libel case between Depp and The Sun in the United Kingdom as evidence of that. There, Depp unsuccessfully sued the publication and Heard was a witness.

Spidey, a prominent body language expert, watched the interviews and shared a few notes with his followers. He felt Bredehoft seemed scripted and gave non-answers when she couldn’t provide a seemingly pre-conceived response. But something specific didn’t sit well with him.

Body language expert would ‘borderline describe’ Amber Heard’s attorney interview answers as gaslighting

As Heard’s lawyer, some have suggested Bredehoft was more responsible for Heard’s loss than Depp or his team. Others feel Heard wasn’t as credible on the stand. But Bredehoft deferred blame back to Depp and his celebrity appeal when confronted with those notions.

“I would borderline describe this as gaslighting because she’s trying to sell this narrative that Johnny Depp is the one who caused the public and the jury to not believe Amber,” Spidey suggested. “Not the fact that Amber was denying things we can all see with our eyes.”

For example, he pointed to Heard’s insistence that she uses the words “pledge” and “donate” synonymously when totaling her charitable donations. Since the trial was about defamation and the credibility of each party, moments like that debatably left Heard’s team with more work.

But Bredehoft seemed to wave those discrepancies off with a “no one’s perfect” approach. Spidey noted he doesn’t use the term gaslighting lightly. But he believed some of Bredehoft’s interview answers were “very, very gaslight-y.”

Elaine Bredehoft gave non-answers when asked why she felt the jury didn’t believe Amber Heard, said body language expert

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Spidey pointed out that Bredehoft often refused to answer or gave non-answers when confronted with the possibility the jury thought Heard lied on the stand. And multiple witnesses inside the courtroom claimed the jurors appeared visibly engaged in arguments for both cases throughout the trial.

Bredehoft was asked more than once if she thought it was possible the jury collectively didn’t believe Heard. But she hardly answered that question directly, pointing to Depp’s fame as an overwhelming influence. She bypassed notes that Heard is also a well-known public figure with a large fan following.

Notably, the jury answered 46 questions, mostly yes or no, to decide on blame and damages in the case. Both parties defamed the other, but Heard caused more significant harm to Depp according to their decision.

Bredehoft said other parties besides Heard and the team had a tremendous impact on the verdict, which was beyond their control. She argued that evidence was disallowed, the jury was influenced by public opinion, and Depp’s celebrity was too big to compete against. They plan to appeal the case.

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