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Although their friendship initially looked promising, Aviva Drescher and Carole Radziwill from The Real Housewives of New York City ended their relationship on a sour note.

Carole Radziwill, Aviva Drescher
Carole Radziwill, Aviva Drescher|Heidi Gutman/Bravo/NBCU Photo Bank/NBCUniversal via Getty Images

Drescher flippantly remarked that Radziwill had a ghostwriter contribute to her book, which was extremely offensive to the former ABC News reporter. Tension over the comment became a storyline for the two, which Drescher says was a little surprising. “We had a big argument on camera about her using a ghostwriter and that took on a life of its own,” Drescher recalled on Out in the Wild podcast. Why did Drescher care how Radziwill wrote her book?

“I didn’t care,” she insisted. “So Carole and I in the very beginning were very very close. Sort of like Bethenny [Frankel] and Carole. We were very, very close, like sisters. She was over at my house like all the time, with my kids, my husband off camera. All the time! She stayed with us in the Hamptons. We were besties.”

Did Ramona Singer set up Drescher?

But, “After I called the girls white trash in St. Barths, maybe she got wind that I was going to be unpopular or whatever, and she sort of pulled back in real life from me,” Drescher says. “She just was very contrived. It was all very contrived.”

“When we opened second season, she was not being very nice to me at all,” she continues. “After Ramona and I made up over the shots, the cameras were down and I said, ‘Ramona, you know Carole’s being such a b**ch, I don’t know why.’ She was like, ‘Oh gosh that’s terrible.’ We were just talking about Carole and it came up.” Drescher says she couldn’t figure out why Radziwill wasn’t being supportive of her book.

Carole Radziwill and Aviva Drescher
Carole Radziwill and Aviva Drescher |Ben Gabbe/Getty Images

During that discussion, Drescher dropped in the whole “ghostwriter” comment. “Ramona was like, ‘Oh my God! You have to talk like that on air! That’s so good! That’s such a good storyline!'” Drescher said Singer dragged her over to the producer and convinced her to bring up the “ghostwriter” comment on air.

Well that escalated quickly

As viewers recall, Drescher went forward with the “ghostwriter” comment. “What I didn’t know, was that it would be such a big deal,” she adds. “I figured it’d be a little storyline.” And maybe the two would go back and forth. But instead, “Carole just got so bent out of shape about it and so upset, and it just blew up into this whole thing, and I really felt bad,” she recalls.

Carole Radziwill, Sonja Morgan, Ramona Singer, Heather Thomson, Aviva Drescher, LuAnn de Lesseps in St. Barts
Carole Radziwill, Sonja Morgan, Ramona Singer, Heather Thomson, Aviva Drescher, LuAnn de Lesseps in St. Barts | Xavier Merchet-Thau/Bravo/NBCU Photo Bank/NBCUniversal via Getty Images

Drescher acknowledges that Radziwill was a journalist who wasn’t a Housewife who wrote a book for fun. But she doesn’t see why Radziwill got upset if she had help writing her book. “Like who cares, you know?”

“Like I get it, her books are her babies,” Drescher says about Radziwill. “But I wouldn’t get all bent out of shape about it. [But] I probably hit a nerve. And then Carole got so mean and nasty in her blogs and was just so on the attack. And I found her level of meanness to be incredible. I saw it play out again with Bethenny. Overall, I just think she’s very contrived and she can be really sweet and sugary, and likable. But I saw this very, very nasty side to her. That I was shocked by! So that’s why I don’t talk to her.”